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2/. As to the general question raised in para 182 of the despatch - Certain officers were granted certain increases of salary from a certain date. Therefore, if such an officer is entitled from that date to the date of his leaving to his increase of salary, unless there was some express provision or declaration depriving him of the increase in whole or in part in the event of his leaving the service before a certain date. There does not appear to have been such a condition here. Therefore, I am in agreement with the Acting Colonial Treasurer, Mr. Johnson.

JS.R. 7/3 - You asked me to consider how the decision on arrears of increased salary would affect this case, and whether it would affect the grant of Pension. There will be a difference between voluntary resignation and retirement on pension; and perhaps the decision on 36106/01 is relevant (see also 23432/01). The increases of salary were approved on 19 July 1901 (vide 25037/99 and 16701/00).

A.F. 11/3 - Please see Mr. Risley's note on 36106/01. The fact that this man resigned entirely of his own accord in order to enter private employment seems to be relevant. The increases were approved subject to approval by the Legislative Council.

Gus 11/3 - M. Johnson - The case of Gibbs (36106/21) seems to me distinguishable from that of this officer. In the former, the increase was only given after the officer had left the service, and he was clearly not entitled to the benefit of its retrospective operation. In the latter, if I have the facts correctly, the increases were given whilst the officer was in the service, but the actual amount of the increases was not definitely settled until after he had resigned.

His claim was refused on the ground that he did not apply, whilst in the service, for the increase. He could not apply until he knew how much he was entitled to, and he did not and could not obtain that knowledge until after he had left the service.

I think he is entitled to his pay up to the moment of his leaving the service. It is not affected by the fact that he voluntarily resigned his office. If he had remained in the service, he would have been allowed the increases.

84913/3 (B & L (x) — 46569----3000-8-01) - An officer does not lose pension by voluntary resignation, but not pay.

Mr. Lucas 2.S.R.12/3 - Perhaps we may be guided by the decision taken on this point in the case of 33361/00.

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2/. As to the general question raised in para 182 of the despatch - Certain officers were granted certain increases of salary from a certain date. Therefore, if such an officer is entitled from that date to the date of his leaving to his increase of salary, unless there was some express provision or declaration depriving him of the increase in whole or in part in the event of his leaving the service before a certain date. There does not appear to have been such a condition here. Therefore, I am in agreement with the Acting Colonial Treasurer, Mr. Johnson. JS.R. 7/3 - You asked me to consider how the decision on arrears of increased salary would affect this case, and whether it would affect the grant of Pension. There will be a difference between voluntary resignation and retirement on pension; and perhaps the decision on 36106/01 is relevant (see also 23432/01). The increases of salary were approved on 19 July 1901 (vide 25037/99 and 16701/00). A.F. 11/3 - Please see Mr. Risley's note on 36106/01. The fact that this man resigned entirely of his own accord in order to enter private employment seems to be relevant. The increases were approved subject to approval by the Legislative Council. Gus 11/3 - M. Johnson - The case of Gibbs (36106/21) seems to me distinguishable from that of this officer. In the former, the increase was only given after the officer had left the service, and he was clearly not entitled to the benefit of its retrospective operation. In the latter, if I have the facts correctly, the increases were given whilst the officer was in the service, but the actual amount of the increases was not definitely settled until after he had resigned. His claim was refused on the ground that he did not apply, whilst in the service, for the increase. He could not apply until he knew how much he was entitled to, and he did not and could not obtain that knowledge until after he had left the service. I think he is entitled to his pay up to the moment of his leaving the service. It is not affected by the fact that he voluntarily resigned his office. If he had remained in the service, he would have been allowed the increases. 84913/3 (B & L (x) 46569----3000-8-01) - An officer does not lose pension by voluntary resignation, but not pay. Mr. Lucas 2.S.R.12/3 - Perhaps we may be guided by the decision taken on this point in the case of 33361/00. C.P.L. sw/13/3 14 Page 71
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2/. As to the general question raised in pars 182 of the deep- Certain officers were granted certain increases of Salary

from a certaris date. Therefore worry such officer is entitled

from that dali to the date of this leaving

to his increase

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the Seria, unless there was some express provision of declaration depriving thin of the increase in whole part in the event of his leaving the service before. qwin dati. There does not appear to have ton ave such condition hers. Therefore I as we

with the Acting, Colonial Treasure of the A. Cq.

Mr. Johnson

JS.R. 7/3

in

You asked me to 5705/0

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arrears of increased

to grant Pension Marion,

of increased salary & both. P. N. Rozarid

would affect this case.

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on the sof s. dest.

of 19 July, 19011 24 an 23432/01).

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of Gibbs

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71

scles to me distinguishable from that

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only given after the officer

clearly not antitled to

had left the service and he was

the benefit of it's retrospection operation.

In the latter, if I have the facts correctly.

an incues were

given whilst the officer was in the service but the actual mount of the incrimes was not definitely satted until after he had resigned. His claim was

refused on

tu survie

the pound truk he did not apply, whilst in the where he could not woull apply, until he knew how

mich he was antilled to apply for, and he did not and could not obtain that knowslide until aflio

he had left the sinau -

I he was whithed to this increase mi tille the

A

not

affected by the fact that he voluntarily resigned his

is entitled to his pay

Mrie? Sureler

ve been allowed

M.+ Gibbs if he

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vice

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(B & L (x) — 46569----3000-8-01

officer

to the moment of his lawing the service, in what wer

man, oprobath does,

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lose pension by voluntary resignation but not pay 3

Mr Lucas

2.S.R.12/3

the whole, reverab

Perhaps we may on

the decision taken on this point in deof on

33361/00

C.P.L

sw/13/3

14

atince

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